5 Mistakes People Make When Buying a Remote Car Starter

A remote car starter can be one of the best additions that you can make to your vehicle. It can also be a very confusing purchase. Our intent with this post is to help you avoid some of the most common mistakes that people make when buying a remote car starter.

Not Buying a Remote Car Starter With Enough Range

I use the word “range” even though I hate to. Manufactures have no choice but to put “500 foot range” or “3000 foot range” on their packaging. It is important to keep in mind that these are absolute perfect word numbers. No RF interference, no walls, no windows, and no buildings to go around… In other words, the middle of the desert!

At our shop, we talk about transmitter power. Our 500 foot model is the one that all others are based on. Our 1500 foot model is considered “3X” power (3 times the transmitter strength of our base model). Our 5000 foot model is considered “10X” power. We feel this gives our customers a better indication of what they are getting. Range is unimportant for most people. Not many of our customers need to start their vehicle from more than 1000 feet away. But almost all of them want to start it from inside a building. That is where transmitter power becomes important.

Don’t shortchange yourself with transmitter range (power). You are going to use your starter at more places than your home or work. You will want to use it at the mall, sporting events, parking garages, hospitals, etc. If in doubt, pay a little more to get a more powerful unit. You want your car to be running when you get to it!

Not Having Your Remote Car Starter Professionally Installed

Professional installation is key to a quality remote car starter experience. Do not trust your vehicle to the lowest bidder! Remote starters make for complicated installs in today’s vehicles. It is important that it is installed properly. One mistake can be thousands of dollars in damage not covered under your vehicle’s warranty. I don’t say that to scare you off. A trained professional can do the job correctly. They will avoid costly mistakes and help you maximize the enjoyability of your new remote car starter. And speaking of your vehicle’s warranty, a properly installed remote car starter will not void your vehicle’s warranty regardless what your dealer says!

DO NOT trust the install to your family mechanic. You wouldn’t bring your vehicle to the local mobile electronics installer for an engine overhaul or transmission repair. Don’t take your vehicle to the local mechanic for a remote starter install. Go to a specialist!

Above all, DO NOT trust your cousin, your friend, or your cousin’s friend to do the install! Unless they are a seasoned installer with real world experience, they are not qualified for today’s vehicles.

Obviously, there are likely some exceptions to my comments above but the exceptions are far and few between. Use your head!

Buying A Poor Quality Remote Car Starter

You can buy a remote car starter at the local auto parts store for $79.99. It comes with an instructional DVD that claims that you can install it yourself. Don’t believe it. You probably can’t!  These remote starters are usually of lower quality than the units that you would buy at a specialty retailer like Mobile Edge. In most cases, a quality manufacturer of remote car starters will require professional installation and frown upon over the counter sales.  They know that the odds of failure decrease exponentially when a professional is doing the work.

The problem is that most people do not know a quality brand from a low quality brand when it comes to remote car starters. A good rule of thumb is to search out the best shop in your market. It is a fair assumption that they will be selling and installing what they perceive as a high quality brand.  If you trust the shop then you should trust their choice in the products that they carry.  Think about it this way:  If they are a good shop, they probably sell and install tons of remote starters.  Do you think that they would choose an inferior product knowing that it will create all kinds of headaches for them?  Probably not.

Not Getting a Remote Car Starter With the Proper Feature Set

Remote car starters offer a lot of convenience options. Be sure to ask the right questions when buying your starter. Some models are simply what they sound like: A remote car starter. They start and stop the vehicle from a distance. That’s it and that might be good enough for you.   Others have multiple functions ranging from keyless entry and trunk release to heated seats and rear window defrost.

A common mistake when considering options includes assuming that certain things might “just work” with the starter. For example, the rear window defroster will not just come on if you left it on. It is on a latched output that resets when the power is shut off. This feature needs to be specifically added to almost all installs.

Another common mistake is not adding keyless entry on newer vehicles. On most newer vehicles, the factory keyless entry does not function when the vehicle is running. This means that, when your vehicle is remote started and you walk up to it, the factory keyless will not unlock the doors. You would have to use the key in the door (old school) or shut the car down with the remote starter, unlock it with the factory remote and then restart it with the key. Neither is a great choice. The solution to this is to choose a remote starter that incorporates keyless entry or add a device like Compustar’s EZGO product. A remote starter equipped with keyless entry will allow you to unlock the vehicle without having to shut the car down.

A quality shop can talk you through these options and make recommendations based on your needs. If you find a shop you trust, the rest is easy.

Buying A Remote Starter From One Place And Getting It Installed At Another

NEVER…. REPEAT NEVER do this. It is the biggest mistake that you will make. You always want to have your starter installed at the very same place that you bought it. Do not make the mistake of buying the eBay/Wal-Mart/Auto Parts Store deal. Most quality shops will not install a remote starter that was purchased elsewhere. You will be left with the second and third tier shops that might agree to do this. If the place you are considering buying a remote starter does not offer installation, DO NOT buy it from them.  I wrote a post a while back that goes into great detail about why you should always have your remote car starter installed at the same place that you buy it. Take the time to read it if you are tempted by the “deal of the day” online.

Conclusion

A remote starter is an awesome addition to any vehicle. Use the tips in this post and the vast amount of information on our site about remote car starters and you are sure to make smart decisions. Another helpful resource is our Remote Car Starter Buying Guide.  It’s not that difficult of a decision when you are armed with the right information. Good luck!

Can A Remote Starter Be Switched To Another Vehicle?

“When I get a new vehicle can we move the remote starter into another vehicle?”  It’s a question that we are asked all the time.  It’s a great question but one without a simple answer. Lets look at all the things that need to be considered.

Removal

There is a cost associated with removing a remote starter. Depending on the original complexity and the quality of the installation, this can vary but is usually 1-2 hours of labor. Our shop currently charges $75 for this type of work so you will have $75 -$150 dollars for removal.

What Is The Starter Coming Out Of / Going Into?

This is the most important question. Remote starter installs varies greatly from vehicle to vehicle. Most newer vehicle will need some type of transponder bypass/interface to allow the remote starter to do its job. If the old and new vehicles both take the same interface, all is well. If they do not then you will need to buy a new bypass at a cost of 75-150 depending on the vehicle.

Reinstallation Harness Kit

Some shops might say that you don’t need this. And they are correct…. You don’t NEED it. But trust me you want it. When we install a remote starter into your vehicle, all wires are cut to custom lengths. We don’t coil up wires and you don’t end up with a rat’s next. The downside is that this harness is not going to fit properly in any other vehicle.  To re-use this harness would mean patching it up and extending this wire and that wire. It is not a good solution. The correct solution is to buy a reinstallation harness kit. This kit consists of the same harnesses that came with the original starter. We can now start over from scratch and custom cut every wire leaving a clean and tidy installation. Cost = $30-$70 (We now charge $50)

Reinstallation

This is a real hard one to gauge without knowing what vehicle it is going into. Assuming a super simple and straightforward install, our guys would be able to do the job in about 2 hours (This is soldering every connection and completing the job to our high standards). Other vehicles may take as long as 5 or 6 hours (Before all the “experts” jump on this, we do things to a very high standard at Mobile Edge. And yes it takes us longer to meet this standard. We don’t apologize or make excuses for this). It is important to keep in mind that it would take just as long to install a new unit so the cost here is kind of a wash… Cost = $150-$450

Warranty

Most remote starter manufacturers will only warranty the unit in the vehicle that it was originally installed in. Removing the unit from one vehicle and installing it into another essentially ends the warranty. Our vendor is no different. HOWEVER… Since we are a unique shop, we do things a little differently. If you have us handle the entire project from removal to reinstall and use a reinstallation harness kit, we will extend your warranty to your new vehicle.

Convenience

Many times, buying a car is a spur of the moment thing. You are “just looking” but we all know how that can work out. Next thing you know you are sitting at the F&I guy’s desk. If you want to transfer the remote starter, you’ve got to coordinate the removal and it just becomes a hassle. Sometimes a good approach is to use the starter as a negotiation tool. Ask for a couple hundred extra on your trade because of the remote starter. In many cases if you tell the dealer that you will make the deal today if they give you extra for the remote starter, they will.

Conclusion

We’ve provided you with the information you need to make an informed. Taking a look at the best case scenario, properly reinstalling a remote car starter into another vehicle may be as little as $250. I can tell you from experience that this is rarely the case. It is not unusual to need a different interface and labor is typically 3 hours or more. In most cases, if the remote starter in question is a lower cost unit, it generally isn’t worth the trouble. On higher end units, you can save a good deal of money by transferring the remote starter into your new vehicle.  Hope this helps!

Mobile Edge Tests The Real World Output of 2 Amplifiers

Memphis PR1X1000 Amplifier

Memphis PR1X1000 Amplifier. Manufacturer claims this amp puts out 1000W @ 1 ohm , 580W @ 2 ohms and 320W @ 4 ohms

Boss CX2000M Amplifier

Boss CX2000M amplifier. Labeled as a 2000W amp, Online retailers claim an output of 1000W @ 2 ohm and not stable at 1 ohm.

Rarely does a week go by that we don’t have a customer bring in a “monster” amp and wanting a wire kit or subs to go with it. Printed clearly on the amp are the words 1000 WATTS or 2000 WATTS. We’ve even seen “5000 WATT” amps! Usually these amps were purchased at a truckload sale, flea market, or discount superstore. They are typically very inexpensive, usually under $150. Do you think that these amps can produce 5000, 2000 or even 1000 watts? Mobile Edge recently tested one of these “2000 Watt” amps from a company called Boss along with a Memphis PR1x1000 amp and we had some eye-opening results!

Amplifier Fusing

Boss CX2000M fusing

The Boss CX2000M Amp is fused at 50 amps

Without switching on our Oscilloscope we could clearly tell you that the Boss amplifier is not capable of producing even the 1000 Watts that the manufacturer claims.  How do we know this?  All you need to do is look at the fusing.  Fuses are designed to limit the amount of current that the amplifier can take in (in part to protect the amp).  Simple physics says that if the input is limited, so will the output. The Boss CX2000M is fused at 50 amps.   Using the formula below, you will find that the amp could not produce more than about 405 watts of sustained power. The formula for determining power is:

Total Power = DC Volts \times Current Draw\times Efficiency Constant

For our purposes, we will use a DC voltage of 13.5 which is typical of a vehicle’s alternator (and will be referenced below).  AB Amplifiers typically are between 50 and 60% efficient. We can give the Boss amp the benefit of the doubt and go with 60%  Plugging in the numbers we get:

Total Power = 13.5 \times 50\times .6

Under most circumstances, this amplifier could not produce more than 405 watts for a sustained period without blowing fuses.  This is quite a bit less than the 2000 watts on its label!

Memphis PR1x1000 Fusing

The Memphis PR1X1000 Amp is fused at 120 amps

Moving on to the Memphis PR1X1000 amp you can see that it is fused at 120 amps.

For class D amplifiers, you use an efficiency constant of about 80%

Assuming the same input voltage of 13.5V and 120 amps of current draw, we can plug in the numbers:

Total Power = 13.5 \times 120\times .8

The maximum sustained power that the Memphis PR1X1000 should be able to produce before the fuses blow is about 1296 watts.  Nearly 30% more than the manufacture specifies.

Testing Equipment

Audio Authority 50Amp Power Supply

Power Supply

1000 CCA battery

1000 CCA battery

There are several tools that are needed to properly test the output of an amplifier.  First of all, you need a solid power supply.  We’ve got this covered with a 50 amp Power supply charging a series 31 1000 CCA farm and truck battery.  This setup gives us the power we need to test all but the largest amplifiers without worrying about significant voltage drops.

TPI440 Oscilloscope

TPI440 Oscilloscope

Fluke Digital Volt Meter

Fluke Digital Volt Meter

We use a TPI440 Oscilloscope to see where the signal clips and read the voltage just before clipping. This gets connected to the speaker outputs of the amplifier.  A Fluke Digital Volt Meter is used to measure and monitor the input voltage throughout the testing.   These units are considered industry standards and are used on a daily basis at Mobile Edge.  They are used for everything from system setup to circuit testing and signal identification when doing OEM integration work.

Test Bench

Test Bench w/JVC deck

Fluke Digital Volt Meter

Fluke Digital Volt Meter

We use a standard JVC cd player to supply the signal.  Our test bench has a complete Ohms Law pie chart for quick conversion of volts, amps, watts, etc!  Test tones are generated by the CD104 Test CD.  This disc has been used since the early 90′s for system setup.  For our test on these amplifiers we will be playing a 40 hZ test tone.  Every good shop has at least one copy of this CD if not more!

1600 Watt Dummy Load

1600 Watt Dummy Load

This is a custom bank of 16 four ohm, 100 watt resistors.  We have 4 banks of 4 resistors each and they can be wired to derive a 1, 2 or 4 ohm load.  This “dummy load” does a decent job of simulating a speaker.  While a speaker is a reactive load and this is not, it gets us into the ball park.  We have it mounted to a 3/8 piece of aluminum to help disperse heat.  When used for a time, these guys get hot!

Aside from testing amplifiers, we use this during system setup.  It takes the place of a speaker during the earlier stages of tuning.  This way we don’t need to be blasted out for hours while setting up a system not to mention it allows the new speakers to be broken in more gently!

Amplifier Testing

The first thing that we do to test the amplifier is to determine the clipping point of the head unit’s RCA leads.  We want a strong undistorted signal going to the amp.  Once we find the clipping point of the deck, we back down the volume slightly until there is no distortion.  The amplifier testing is done with the volume set at this level. (Note that this step was not shown in the above video but described in this link)

We use the CD104 test cd and set it for the 40hZ track.  The CD player is set to repeat this track over and over.

After hooking up the amplifier, we set the gain to minimum, crossover point to about 100hZ and all subsonic filters and bass boosts to off/min.  The amplifier is connected to the dummy load.  In the case of the Boss CX2000m amplifier, we wire the load for 2 ohms.  The manufacturer states that the amp is not stable at 1 ohm thus producing max power at 2 ohms.  For the Memphis PR1X1000, we wire it for 1 ohm since this amp is stable at 1 ohm.

The next step is to test the supply voltage.  In each case, the input voltage tested at right around 13.5 Volts.  This is a very common voltage range found in vehicles while running.

Finally the oscilloscope is hooked up to the speaker outputs of the amp and set for AC voltage (speaker outputs are AC).  The Oscope will show the frequency, in this case 40hZ along with the voltage.  It also shows the waveform being generated by the amplifier.

We slowly turn up the gain control on the amplifier and watch the waveform.  Eventually, the waveform will start to distort or flatten out.  This indicates distortion or clipping and that the signal is no longer clean.  We back the gain off slightly until the waveform is clean again and read the voltage.

In the case of the Memphis amplifier, the undistorted voltage was 34.9 volts.

This formula for power is simple and the same whether  Class AB or Class D:

Power = \frac{{AC Voltage}^2}{Impedance}

Power = \frac{{34.9}^2}{1}

(Test was done with amp wired to a 1 ohm load)

Do the math and you will find that the Memphis amp produced 1218 watts.  That is 121.8% of the power that the manufacturer states in their literature, manuals and website.

The Boss amp did not fare so well.  When tested, it produce an undistorted 25.11 volts.

Power = \frac{{25.11}^2}{2}

(Test was done with amp wired to a 2 ohm load)

Again, do the math and the 2000 Watt Boss CX2000M amplifier produced a whopping undistorted 315 watts!  Doing a little more math and you will find that this is only 15.75% of the power that is stamped on the amp and only 31.5% of the power that the manufacturer claims!

The Insides of the Amplifiers

We thought it would be interesting to take the amplifiers apart and see what they looked like inside.  The CX2000M is much larger and noticeably lighter than the Memphis PR1X1000.

Amplifier Testing

The Memphis PR1X1000 on the Left and the Boss CX2000M on the right. Both have the lids off to expose the insides.

It is easy to see that there is a lot more going on inside of the Memphis amp.  There is not a lot of space.  That is not the case with the Boss amp. Inside the CX2000M you’ve got plenty of room!

Memphis PR1X1000 Opened Up

Memphis PR1X1000 Opened Up

Boss CX2000M opened up

Boss CX2000M opened up

 

Amplifier Testing Conclusion

This post and test was not meant to put down any specific amplifier.  The only reason that we used the Boss amp was because a good customer had one lying around and volunteered it’s use.  The purpose is to point out that not everything is as it seems in the world of car audio.  There is no required governing body for car audio ratings.  There are no testing laboratories that manufacturers have to send their equipment to.  Any manufacturer can claim any power rating that they want.  It’s that simple. (It is important to note that there is an industry standard called CEA 2006-B.  Manufacturers are not required to take part in it.  When comparing 2 amplifiers that are rated by CEA 2006-B guidelines you can get a good apples to apples comparison. Also, almost all of the reputable industry manufacturers use Cogent Laboratories in Chandler, Az for their testing and independent validation.)

The Memphis amplifier clearly puts out nearly 4 times the power of the boss amp yet both manufacturers claim 1000 watts.  The Memphis amp exceeds this rating and the Boss amp barely puts out 30% of the claim.  When making a purchasing decision, it is important to understand the quality of the product you are buying.  It is important to trust the product and the retailer you are buying from.

Imagine if the customer that bought the “2000 watt” amp decided to go out and get two subs that could really handle 1000 watts each.  They would be wasting an obscene amount of money BIG subs and the end result would be very poor.    What they really should get are two 150-200 watt subs.

I know that the argument can be made that the Memphis amp is more expensive than the Boss amp.  This is absolutely true.  A quality product that produces lots of power costs more money to build. If you look at typical street costs for each of these amps and do the math, you will see that the Memphis amp is much cheaper when you consider dollar per watt.  Also important is the dealer selling the product.  It is unlikely that the flea market vendor or discount superstore employee selling the “monster 2000 watt” amps will be able to provide the expertise necessary to design and build a great system.  But I’d bet your local Memphis or Hertz/Audison dealer will!

All that aside, don’t you like the idea of getting 21.8% more than what you are promised?

I welcome your reasoned and well thought out comments!

Mobile Edge Owner Mitch Schaffer Attends JVC Dealer Conference in Temecula, CA.

Every once in a while, business ownership throws you a perk.  I had one of those perks last week when I attended the JVC 2012 Product Preview Meetings at the Pechanga Resort and Casino in Temecula, CA.  Only a handfull of dealers were invited throughout the country and I was honored that we were selected.

Mitch Schaffer and JVC VP Bill Turner

Mobile Edge Owner Mitch Schaffer with JVC Vice President Bill Turner after a round of golf at the Journeys at Pechanga

It all started earlier this summer when Mobile Edge was featured in an article in Dealerscope magazine.  One of the photos that was used showed our head unit display filled with JVC decks.  A few days after the article was published I got a call from Bill Turner, Vice President of Mobile Entertainment for JVC.  I’ve know Bill Turner from his days as National Sales Manager for Orion Car Audio back in the 90′s.  He called to thank me for effectively supporting the JVC brand at Mobile Edge.  We spoke for quite a while and I shared with him what we were doing with our website and with social media in our store.

It was about a week later when Bo Lamar, Eastern Regional Sales Manager for JVC, called and asked if I would be interested in joining them from November 9 – 12 in Temecula for the 2012 dealer preview.  Of course I was interested!  They booked the flight and reserved the room and last Wednesday afternoon I left for the airport.  One cancelled flight and 12 hours later, I arrived at the resort.

Journeys at Pechanga

This golf course was absolutely beautiful. Pictures do not do it justice. It is important to note that the incredible surroundings did not improve my golf game!

The resort was beautiful.  It has a large casino that I tried very hard to stay out of and excellent restaurants and lounges throughout!   The good folks at JVC took care of everything!  They treated me like Mobile Edge was a 5 million dollar account (we’re not!!!!).  They listened to my ideas and cared about what I had to say.  On Friday, they treated me to the a round of golf at the Journey’s at Pechanga, rumored to be one of the top 5 public course in the country.

Rattlesnake warning sign

Never saw a sign like this on a PA golf course!

The product preview meeting was exceptional.  I had to sign an NDA (non disclosure agreement) so I cannot mention specifics, but I can say that 2012 will be a tremendous year for JVC.  We spent most of Thursday going over what the future holds for JVC and let me say that the future looks bright!

That evening at dinner, I had the pleasure of speaking with Chad Vogelsong, General Marketing Manager for JVC.  He is the brains behind most of their marketing efforts including the 60+ regional Facebook Pages and the annual “Turn Me On” videos. We talked about how Mobile Edge and JVC can partner up on some Facebook promotions.  Believe it or not, at 2300 fans, Mobile Edge is among the most popular Facebook pages for any car audio store in the country.  Because of this, Chad felt that Mobile Edge would be an interesting testing ground for some of the promos that they plan on running.   If you have not “liked” Mobile Edge or JVC PA on Facebook, be sure to do it now and be eligible for some great deals and giveaways coming up very soon!

This was a great opportunity for Mobile Edge and shows that some large companies really care about their dealers in smaller markets.  If you are in the market for an audio upgrade, I recommend JVC and if you are in the area, I invite to to check out their lineup at Mobile Edge.

USS Carl Vinson

On the ride to the airport I saw the USS Carl Vinson docked in the San Diego harbor (You can see it in the background). The day before, the supercarrier that dropped off Bin Laden hosted a basketball game. 

 

Major Amp & Subwoofer Event Going On Now At Mobile Edge

Mobile Edge  is known for the quality products that we sell and the expert installation that we provide.  What’s even better than the best stuff, installed in your vehicle to perfection?  Being able to buy the best stuff at big discounts, that’s what!  We just stepped to the plate and made a huge purchase of amplifiers, subwoofers and enclosures.  Possibly one of the largest orders we’ve placed in 10 years!  Our vendors appreciate what Mobile Edge brings to the table and when we were ready to write the big check they stepped up with some insane discounts!

Now those discounts are being passed along to you!  Imagine getting a Memphis amp and sub and a box for $149!  We’re not talking about “Phony Explode” brand either!  This is quality equipment.  How about a matched pair (4 channel and a 500 watt mono amp) of Memphis amplifiers  for $319?  That’s $319 for 2 high quality amps and we’ve got 6 sets for sale!  Two 12″ subs with a 1000 watt amp and ported enclosure for $299.. Got that too!…. 500 Watt Memphis Amplifier for $179?  Stop in and see for yourself!

Everything comes with a warranty and in many cases that warranty can be doubled just by letting us to the dirty work and professionally installing your equipment in your ride!  We even have special deals on amp wire kits!

The Fine Print:  There are no rain checks. When they are gone, they are gone. Short term layaways are available.  Some items are B-stock, but all items come with a warranty!  Many packages are a one of a kind so get ‘em while their hot!  These deals are available ONLY at the store.  they are not available via internet or phone!

Check out this video with a small sampling of what we have available as of 10/26/2011.  We have many other deals and specials available at the store!  Stop in before it is too late!

Coats For Kids Underway Once Again At Mobile Edge!

A Bit of History

Two years ago in early November, Mobile Edge ran it’s first Coats For Kids drive. We made arrangements to have any coats distributed locally in Carbon and neighboring counties. We had hoped to collect a few dozen coats. Were we in for a surprise! By the end of January, we had collected close to 200 coats. We realized that we were on to something sweet! Last year, we ran the promotion again and by the time it was all said and done, we had collected nearly 300 coats. In addition, we collected dozens of beanies, scarves and gloves.

What Is Coats For Kids?

As the owner of Mobile Edge for nearly 20 years, I’ve always said that I’ve never once sold something that people actually need! Not one single time (Lets face it, neither has Apple!). I sell products that people want…. things that make them happy and things that make life more comfortable and convenient. One of the truest examples of this is remote car starters.

My store sells more remote car starters than you would believe. Good economy or bad economy… It doesn’t matter. We sell and install a LOT of them and we have since 1994! It stands to reason that if someone cares that much about staying warn, they must have some outdated children’s coats or know someone who does.

We decided to tie these things together. Bring us a new or gently used child’s coat and we will give you up to $50 off the cost of a new remote car starter! There is no catch. No hidden agenda. You have something that can help other people (coats). We have really great car starters that will keep you warm and comfortable and we have a means to distribute your coats to children who need them. Everybody wins! You save money and make some room in you closet. We get to make another happy customer and a child somewhere in our area will be warmer this Winter. Think about it… It make sense to me!

But I Don’t Have Any Kid’s Coats?

Bring us one of your own. As one of the ladies from a local charity told us: Mommies and daddies need to stay warm too! (We honor the discount for any coat)

I Really Don’t Want A Remote Starter?

No problem. We will happily take all of your unwanted coats, beanies, gloves, and scarves. It might be 17 degrees out the day that you drop them off, but I promise you will leave our shop feeling all warm and fuzzy inside!

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Our goal this year is a lofty one. We want to collect 500 coats. Plain and simple. So if you are reading this and in Carbon or surrounding counties, why not share this on your Twitter feed or Facebook wall. We’re making it simple for you to make a difference in local children’s lives. Spread the word!

Press From Previous Years Promotions

TV13 coverage from 2009

WNEP Coverage from 2009

2010 Times News Article

 Late 2010 Times News Article